Dave has been programming a lot recently, determined to solve problems that have been bothering him for a long time. There’s no one place, there’s no one archive for all the posting we do online. “Can we come up with a unified writing space?” That’s the problem he’s trying to solve with the tools he’s been working on.
Jay: “Everything you’ve done is kind of a declaration of independence.” Independence for writers and publishers on the Web.
Commenting on last week’s show with Jennifer Preston, Dave says: The show made me realize, the people of the New York Times just think differently than we do.
Jay: Yes, but one of the things that is changing at big news organizations is that the power of the individual voice is rising relative to the institutional brand.
Another: Prior to the Web, the people who ran these organizations actually believed that they knew what there was to know about journalism. There was no missing knowledge. “That has been blown away.”
Dave on a piece he write about the tech industry’s pretensions to “change the world.” His title: let the world change you. For the people who run Twitter, it’s more likely that the world will change them than that they will change the world.
Jay’s attended a conference at Yale called, “Journalism and the New Media Ecology: Who Will Pay the Messenger?” This was the wrong question. It should have been, “who will subsidize news production?”
But the striking thing was that the bloggers and the journalists, the for-profits and the non-profits, the writers and the executives were all in the same space, unlike the discussion in 2005 that we were both at.
Dave: But the news may start coming to us without being subsidized. Or interfered with at all. “Can’t I get it without the filter?”
Jay: Well, with any kind of report we might offer, we have to compose an account; and that always means we must edit: leave things out, frame the shot.
Dave: True. But reporters can be bullies. They can decide to set themselves up as the gatekeeper. They can be excluders. “When they do that, I want them to be exposed.”
The Murdoch circus around paywalls and the threat to exit from Google. Jay: “I’m so tired of listening to these news companies moan and gripe about Google that I want them to go ahead and try.”
Dave: I don’t really care, just as I can’t really care about what I see on CNN. It’s sterile.
Jay: if CNN would just learn from Jon Stewart, then it could develop a real news identity.
Dave: If people leave comments at this site that are good enough to be blog posts, can we make them into blog posts?
Jay: I’m open to that, as long as its in the context of a reply to a show.
And here’s the show:
Hope you enjoy…