Rebooting the News #29

In Podcast on October 19, 2009 by Dave Winer

FriendFeed: losing altitude?

The depopulation of FriendFeed after its purchase by Facebook.

Dave: “It still works perfectly fine but there isn’t the discussion that used to happen.”

Spec list for an improved Twitter

What Jay wants in the “loosely coupled 140 character message network” being built outside of Twitter, the company:

* Title for the post

* Link I’m pointing to

* The 140 character message itself

* Replying to… (a url, which could be a Tweet or another web document)

* Two addressees: people I am specifically talking to

* Category, as “this is another elaboration on my Church of the Savvy theme.”

Dave: “Some day I should offer a one day crash course on RSS for poets. Because if you look at the RSS 2.0 specs, it allows for all the things you just asked for.”

The real time New York Times feed

Dave explains an “egregious hack” he worked out for to get a stream of Times headlines in RSScloud-land

CNN lameness watch

CNN anchor Don Lemon, who had just appeared at BlogWorld with Jay, the next day goes live with an update about “balloon Dad” as if this Gawker item had not happpened. Why? Jay: “If you want to be real time, then be real time.”

Next day: Don Lemon on Twitter says: Balloon boy is a HOAX! That’s what sheriff says. WOW!

Twitter: Lists!

Not everyone has access, but both Jay and Dave have the new feature–Twitter lists–turned on for them.

Dave: Dan Bricklin has a great way of putting this: “You look for software features that reward you for using them one percent of the time, and unfortunately there are a lof of products that penalize you for not using them 100 percent of the time. And lists are like that.” Meaning: they require work. They require maintenance.

Jay: But that suggests that news organizations have an advantage with lists if they are strict in maintaining them well.

Dave explains why he shut the site down. A disappointment because “It was kind of a lab for a lot of the things we’ve talked about.”

Jay: I thought it was good news that emerged from that because this local news site problem is a very tough thing to crack.

Dave: “For whatever reason local has got its own unique problems and I don’t know what they are because we haven’t cracked this yet.”

Jay: My current interest is the newsroom-as-cafe coupled with the trend toward coworking. “In that mix of elements might be a interesting formula for a local news site.” As I said on Twitter:

I’d like to see newsroom-as-cafe and co-working joined together in holy practicality.

Future-safe archives

Dave: “The truth is my website and every website I maintain will be gone thirty days after I die.” So what do we do about this vulnerability? It’s potentially a business. But universities have a role, as well.

Jay: “It reminds me of a very important fiction in journalism: the idea of the public record…. The permanence of the public record is related to the durability of fact itself.”

reboot09Oct19.mp3 (audio/mpeg, 10.8MB)
Monday, October 19, 2009.

One Response to “Rebooting the News #29”

  1. Re the “future-safe archives” portion of this program, see On a more serious note, institutional archivists — including those with the Internet Archive and OCLC — use crawlers like Heritrix to get snapshots of websites at programmed intervals.

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